tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post5269443761382586463..comments2024-03-25T03:28:44.234-04:00Comments on Just the Vax: HPV Jab Not Responsible for Wisconsin Girl's Deathjustthevaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07081499341191718417noreply@blogger.comBlogger78125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-2270776269235710972017-01-21T13:34:38.564-05:002017-01-21T13:34:38.564-05:00Hello, Travis. Are you having identity problems a...Hello, Travis. Are you having identity problems again? You should get some help for that.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428361191787397415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-65308565290058760082015-03-02T00:51:23.891-05:002015-03-02T00:51:23.891-05:00Protection is better than cure. Get tested before ...Protection is better than cure. Get tested before it is too late. Thank you for the awareness. However it is advised for people with HPV to try and find out some <a href="http://www.hpvsinglesdating.com/" rel="nofollow">hpv singles</a> to support and love. This can stop any further infections.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15876691480700993624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-82987234726023058172015-02-25T13:05:40.301-05:002015-02-25T13:05:40.301-05:00"I have not a mom who lots a child to Hib sin..."I have not a mom who lots a child to Hib since my second was born (he got the vaccine)."<br /><br />Should be: "I have not met a mom who lost a child to Hib since my second was born (he got the vaccine)."<br /> Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428361191787397415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-54562259627158694142015-02-25T11:56:34.795-05:002015-02-25T11:56:34.795-05:00I'm looking forward to my sons getting the HPV...I'm looking forward to my sons getting the HPV vaccine - protection works both ways & if they can help out, all the better.Lawrencenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-89144778670472000982015-02-25T11:20:21.129-05:002015-02-25T11:20:21.129-05:00And guess what? The vaccines worked quite well.
...And guess what? The vaccines worked quite well. <br /><br />They were much better than when they got chicken pox and rotavirus before those vaccines were available. I have not a mom who lots a child to Hib since my second was born (he got the vaccine).<br /><br />Also, as teenagers two of my kids got the HPV vaccine, and they are fine.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428361191787397415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-39470232773851766272015-02-25T11:00:13.784-05:002015-02-25T11:00:13.784-05:00Yes I agree thank you for testing it for meYes I agree thank you for testing it for meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-21226875506685174882015-02-24T17:04:29.419-05:002015-02-24T17:04:29.419-05:00"I just don't trust big pharmacy companie..."I just don't trust big pharmacy companies enough to let them experiment on my own children. Now if we have an actual outbreak (not this trumped up media blitz) "<br /><br />Be sure to thank your responsible neighbors who vaccinate. They are protecting your family by raising the immunity of you community to infectious diseases. <br /><br />Though it is imperfect because like minded folks tend to hang out, and you may run into some who are actually infectious.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428361191787397415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-50036500270785414842015-02-24T15:30:24.291-05:002015-02-24T15:30:24.291-05:00You are either scared that your kids will get the ...You are either scared that your kids will get the measles or scared about what the vaccine will do to your kids. Either way you are trying to do what's best for your children. I just don't trust big pharmacy companies enough to let them experiment on my own children. Now if we have an actual outbreak (not this trumped up media blitz) I may change my mind. 200/3.18 million is not an outbreak.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-59695717427210982392015-02-06T15:56:04.956-05:002015-02-06T15:56:04.956-05:00Looks like I hit a nerve. Putting people down for ...Looks like I hit a nerve. Putting people down for not agreeing with you or understanding where you're coming from &assuming they're uneducated or the like isn't at all a good place to start to try &convince people that vaccination is a good thing. People are terrified for their children on both spectrums &want to be reassured instead of being verbally attacked. I came to your blog for some advice but all I see are people getting bullied for not thinking exactly like you do. Plot twist: I'm pro-vaccination. Carry on with your day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-91421408901560765162015-02-06T14:15:38.885-05:002015-02-06T14:15:38.885-05:00@Anon - constantly having to deal with individuals...@Anon - constantly having to deal with individuals who refuse to be educated or understand even basic scientific principles can make one extremely cynical.<br /><br />And your back-handed insult pretty much shows you're a hypocrite as well.Lawrencenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-45756680867270589562015-02-06T13:41:08.693-05:002015-02-06T13:41:08.693-05:00Anonymous, no one is making you read here. I am v...Anonymous, no one is making you read here. I am very patient with people who sincerely wish to have a discussion. In fact I'll go out of my way to find alternate explanations and additional information. I have zero tolerance for arrogantly ignorant people who do a little Googling and think they are experts who know more than actual experts. Go tone-troll somewhere else if you don't like it.Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-48749836818186233502015-02-06T12:50:58.200-05:002015-02-06T12:50:58.200-05:00Just a suggestion, Science Mom. Instead of being c...Just a suggestion, Science Mom. Instead of being condescending, rude, insulting, &barbaric .. try being a little more sensitive to those that you believe may or may not be educated. Your cockiness makes my skin crawl &to me it sounds like your husband works for Big Pharma &you're attempting to dumb people down &use scare tactics instead of trying to open minds &help others. Switch up the routine, the insults are tacky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-63507059404411165252014-11-20T18:26:39.262-05:002014-11-20T18:26:39.262-05:00You saying "it is pointless to continue until...You saying "it is pointless to continue until you have figured out how to start your PAR" is no different than Chris refusing to proceed unless someone can produce a PubMed report that doesn't exist. It's a manufactured roadblock. It doesn't mean anything. It's incredibly childish.<br /><br />You're simply wrong. That's why you're so focused in avoiding this very, very simple exercise ...<br /><br />Fill in the question marks for the following statement:<br /><br />Since 2006, the average, annualized chance that an unvaccinated person will die from measles in the U.S. is 1 in ??????????.<br /><br />Whine about PAR all you want ... but at some point, you're gonna need to PUT UP OR SHUT UP!jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-36522078571124982552014-11-20T16:34:46.500-05:002014-11-20T16:34:46.500-05:00I realize this isn't an intellectual conversat...<i>I realize this isn't an intellectual conversation at this point, it's a political one. And I realize you two have been instructed to never admit a mistake and never admit you're wrong, but instead just divert and distraction. But at this point in the conversation, you're in a corner.</i><br /><br />It's not remotely political and I have not made the mistake here. It is pointless to continue until you have figured out how to start your PAR. If that puts <i>me</i> in a corner then you have a strange sense of geography.Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-23748972793177265212014-11-20T09:45:59.065-05:002014-11-20T09:45:59.065-05:00Would the both of you stop diverting already?
Ju...Would the both of you stop diverting already? <br /><br />Just fill in the question marks for the following statement:<br /><br />Since 2006, the average, annualized chance that an unvaccinated person will die from measles in the U.S. is 1 in ??????????.<br /><br />I realize this isn't an intellectual conversation at this point, it's a political one. And I realize you two have been instructed to never admit a mistake and never admit you're wrong, but instead just divert and distraction. But at this point in the conversation, you're in a corner.<br /><br />Once you fill in those question marks, one of two things in going to happen ... either you're going to put in a realistic number (like 1 in several hundreds of millions), or you're going to put in completely wrong number (like 1 in several tens of thousands or millions).<br /><br />If you put a realistic number in there, you concede that I'm right and you're wrong. If you put a completely wrong number in there you look even more like an idiot because if the number were 1 in several tens of thousands or millions, we'd have dozens or even hundreds of deaths from measles each and every year, and that ain't happening.<br /><br />So go ahead and continue to divert, dodge and whine. But the facts are still the fact, so you two idjits can go ahead and continue to reveal yourselves for what you are — either total shills or a couple of complete morons who are entirely detached from reality.jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-47556515948405804642014-11-20T02:16:29.203-05:002014-11-20T02:16:29.203-05:00"Hey expert, simply fill in the question mark..."Hey expert, simply fill in the question marks for the following statement:"<br /><br />Just take <a href="http://www.jhsph.edu/academics/degree-programs/master-of-public-health/curriculum/core-courses.html" rel="nofollow">these classes</a> and all of your questions will be answered.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428361191787397415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-57485941350552739262014-11-19T22:50:36.687-05:002014-11-19T22:50:36.687-05:00"I'm going to go ahead and go out on a li..."I'm going to go ahead and go out on a limb here and say this is going to be yet another specific point you're just going to ignore, just like your botched multiplication (it still ain't 1 million) and your bogus statistics that imply that 1.4-4.2 people die from measles each and every year."<br /><br />Nailed it, again!!!jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-14164322128210526822014-11-19T22:01:08.293-05:002014-11-19T22:01:08.293-05:00It's a range and I gave you 2008 risk of death...It's a range and I gave you 2008 risk of death range; in spite of what you accuse me of, I don't get paid for this so I'm not going to calculate it unless it suits my fancy. I'm sorry you can't figure out your PAR but please don't ask me to do your work for you while pointing at the shiny object over there.Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-16140269883163011872014-11-19T21:02:25.236-05:002014-11-19T21:02:25.236-05:00Hey expert, simply fill in the question marks for ...Hey expert, simply fill in the question marks for the following statement:<br /><br />Since 2006, the average, annualized chance that an unvaccinated person will die from measles in the U.S. is 1 in ??????????.jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-60481951942584094942014-11-19T20:15:57.441-05:002014-11-19T20:15:57.441-05:00If there are 31 million people who could potential...<i>If there are 31 million people who could potential get measles (non-immune), and only 126 get measles, the chance of getting measles is among the at risk population is 1 in 246K. And this isn't hypothetical.</i><br /><br />No, your PAR is too high because you aren't factoring in a variable which includes a significant proportion of the population. So yes, it's not hypothetical; it's just wrong. You read a single blogpost that is a cursory (and not all together correct) explanation of PAR and now you are trying to bullshit someone who can smell it a mile away. By the by, that risk is going to change each year with differences in measles cases so you can't use a single number and apply it to every year.Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-28817354210971437072014-11-19T19:44:23.184-05:002014-11-19T19:44:23.184-05:00Let me sum it all up in a very simple fashion ... ...Let me sum it all up in a very simple fashion ... since you're obviously the expert, simply fill in the question marks for the following statement:<br /><br />Since 2006, the average, annualized chance that an unvaccinated person will die from measles in the U.S. is 1 in ??????????.<br /><br />I'm going to go ahead and go out on a limb here and say this is going to be yet another specific point you're just going to ignore, just like your botched multiplication (it still ain't 1 million) and your bogus statistics that imply that 1.4-4.2 people die from measles each and every year.<br /><br />Good grief, you have some totally baseless assertions.jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-2440214382834086112014-11-19T19:05:04.071-05:002014-11-19T19:05:04.071-05:00Population at risk/no. of cases=chance of infectio...Population at risk/no. of cases=chance of infection among population at risk<br /><br />If there are 31 million people who could potential get measles (non-immune), and only 126 get measles, the chance of getting measles is among the at risk population is 1 in 246K. And this isn't hypothetical.<br /><br />Again, you're doing a whole lot of talking, and not much proving (other than how clueless you are).jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-28825282693709625822014-11-19T17:50:14.372-05:002014-11-19T17:50:14.372-05:00And PAR is not the denominator for risk unless you...<i>And PAR is not the denominator for risk unless you assume 100% on the unvaccinated population is exposed to measles in a given year. Obviously, that's not reality, now is it?</i><br /><br />Um no jv. PAR is the denominator for estimating risk of infection. I would suggest you read up more, for about 4 more years or so and then try again. My degrees are in very very relevant fields. But have fun; this is very very entertaining.<br />Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-23043827012507052752014-11-19T17:42:44.250-05:002014-11-19T17:42:44.250-05:00PAR is for estimating risk when there are multiple...PAR is for estimating risk when there are multiple causations ... so far as I know, the only thing that causes measles is exposure to measles. The rate of infection for non-immune exposure is pretty much 100%. In an average year, fewer than 200 people are even exposed (that's your denominator) ... in other words, fewer than 200 people even run the risk of contracting measles. <br /><br />PAR is irrelevant for the purposes of this conversation for three specific reasons ... 1) you have no non-immune cohort being exposed without the outcome of getting measles; 2) the only thing that causes measles is measles; 3) an unexposed non-immune population has 0% chance of getting measles.<br /><br />And PAR is not the denominator for risk unless you assume 100% on the unvaccinated population is exposed to measles in a given year. Obviously, that's not reality, now is it?<br /><br />What did you get your degree in ... Journalism? Political Science? Psychology? Marketing? Or maybe you're just an intern at Novartis or something. <br /><br />By the way, you still need to get a clue, and 500*20,000 still doesn't equal 1,000,000.jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-86485849655575986002014-11-19T17:12:30.047-05:002014-11-19T17:12:30.047-05:00So how does that have no bearing on the conversati...So how does that have no bearing on the conversation when it's your damn denominator for risk?Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.com