tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post5939193914021599..comments2024-03-25T03:28:44.234-04:00Comments on Just the Vax: Don't panic at CDC's new autism numbersjustthevaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07081499341191718417noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-5899999960741633432014-09-23T02:37:21.550-04:002014-09-23T02:37:21.550-04:00Spammer above me (possibly?)Spammer above me (possibly?)Anon Unheardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-81013813738517333012013-03-23T16:39:59.687-04:002013-03-23T16:39:59.687-04:00Dr. Jay has returned to the Ho-Po after several ye...Dr. Jay has returned to the Ho-Po after several years’ hiatus. He’s pimping his new book and has commented on the new 1 in 50 autism prevalence report. All the usual suspects from the anti-vaccine blogs are posting there. I’ve posted a bunch of comments (still in moderation) at the Ho-Po. Come and join me there.<br /><br />http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jay-gordon/cdc-one-of-every-fifty-ch_b_2921256.htmlliladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-73012395898960892802013-03-22T15:02:56.645-04:002013-03-22T15:02:56.645-04:00PGP, The nutter anti-vaxxers can't even keep t...PGP, The nutter anti-vaxxers can't even keep their own lies straight. I believe Linda was trying to regurgitate this old trope: http://www.who.int/immunization_monitoring/milstien.pdf regarding the ludicrous accusation that the WHO and UNICEF were practising population control with HCG-tainted tetanus vaccines. Of course it's rot but what else is new when it comes to anti-vaxx bollocks. Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-80026467500174794512013-03-22T13:21:42.166-04:002013-03-22T13:21:42.166-04:00Estrogen's a virus now? I hope she comes back,...Estrogen's a virus now? I hope she comes back, I'd love for her to explain what she thinks estrogen is and what it's doing in a vaccine. Politicalguineapignoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-56974246654237256632013-03-22T08:03:11.115-04:002013-03-22T08:03:11.115-04:00She's quite the conspiracy theorist isn't ...She's quite the conspiracy theorist isn't she? Somehow I doubt she'll be back here. People like her hit and run.Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-70665875433833466822013-03-22T05:25:00.799-04:002013-03-22T05:25:00.799-04:00You just never know when you google a crank poster...You just never know when you google a crank poster's name...what you will come up with. :-)<br /><br />I located Linda Turner's Twitter page and she's been "tweeting" all those silly comments...<br /><br />"This response to the increase is utter nonsense. We knew how to count when it was 1 in 10,000 in America. We also had no problem recognizing Autism".<br /><br />Go and view the other *howlers* on Turner's Twitter page...<br /><br />https://twitter.com/daehlin<br /><br />liladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-82095302363973732722013-03-20T23:21:37.919-04:002013-03-20T23:21:37.919-04:00@ Linda Turner:
Surely, you have heard that the c...@ Linda Turner:<br /><br />Surely, you have heard that the changing and broadening of Diagnostic Criteria between the DSM II, the DSM III and the DSM IV have resulted in a dramatic increase in the prevalence of ASDs. How about "diagnostic substitution", at both ends of the "Spectrum" to qualify for educational services in the school setting?<br /><br />Then there is this article about classifying early onset schizophrenia in the DSM II and the addition of the PDD diagnostic criteria in the DSM III:<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2664646/<br /><br />J Am Acad Child Adolesc Psychiatry. 2009 January; 48(1): 10–18.<br />doi: 10.1097/CHI.0b013e31818b1c63<br /><br />PMCID: PMC2664646<br />NIHMSID: NIHMS95008<br /><br />Autism-Spectrum Disorders and Childhood Onset Schizophrenia: Clinical and Biological Contributions to a Relationship Revisited<br /><br />Judith Rapoport, M.D., Alex Chavez, B.S., Deanna Greenstein, Ph.D., Anjene Addington, Ph.D., and Nitin Gogtay, M.D.<br /><br />“…When advances in psychiatry permitted the field to conceptualize psychotic disorders and developmental disorders as distinct, the phenomena of PDD and COS as comorbid disorders could be explored. In the DSM-II, autism was referred to as schizophrenia, childhood type, and was characterized by “atypical and withdrawn behavior,” “failure to develop identity separate from the mother’s,” and “general unevenness, gross immaturity and inadequacy in development.” However, important post DSM-II work conducted by Kolvin and others focused on the contrast between very early onset schizophrenia (with typical onset after age 7) 15 and earlier onset autism. This research was influential in making the distinction between childhood onset schizophrenia and autism in the DSM III.<br /><br />You made this statement....<br /><br />"As for the removal of thimerosal, we don't know what is in every batch of vaccines, given there have been proven accounts of vaccines sent to other countries with the aids virus and estrogen, explained away as mistaken tainted batches. What an insult. Shame on you."<br /><br />I presume that you have citations and links to those citations from reliable sources (hint Age of Autism, whale.to and rense.com are NOT reliable sources), to prove that vaccines were contaminated with the virus that causes AIDS and estrogen.<br /><br />Shame on you, Linda Turner.<br /><br />liladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-85321958067011407262013-03-20T21:09:30.523-04:002013-03-20T21:09:30.523-04:00"We also had no problem recognizing Autism.&q..."We also had no problem recognizing Autism."<br /><br />Really?<br /><br />http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15858952COVRAChttp://www.facebook.com/COVRACnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-26595480926890439332013-03-20T19:37:19.590-04:002013-03-20T19:37:19.590-04:00Linda, where did you get the 1:10,000 figure? Wha...Linda, where did you get the 1:10,000 figure? What is your basis for claiming that,"We also had no problem recognizing Autism?" You do realise that that autism is a spectrum disorder and that the DSM has changed considerably over the decades don't you?<br /><br />And yes we do know what's in every batch of vaccines as they have to be purity and potency tested. And no vaccines have been sent to other countries with "the aids[sic] virus and estrogen". If you have proof then show it. The only insult is you to our intelligence and the shame is on you for disseminating such ridiculous lies. Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-54087668453780705722013-03-20T18:53:00.835-04:002013-03-20T18:53:00.835-04:00This response to the increase is utter nonsense. W...This response to the increase is utter nonsense. We knew how to count when it was 1 in 10,000 in America. We also had no problem recognizing Autism. As for the removal of thimerosal, we don't know what is in every batch of vaccines, given there have been proven accounts of vaccines sent to other countries with the aids virus and estrogen, explained away as mistaken tainted batches. What an insult. Shame on you.Linda Turnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07956241479119148783noreply@blogger.com