tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post6390545885469896503..comments2024-02-25T14:33:37.251-05:00Comments on Just the Vax: much ado about timing of measles shotjustthevaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07081499341191718417noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-90008913292432371852012-09-12T10:17:04.933-04:002012-09-12T10:17:04.933-04:00Have you actually read this http://www.pdr.net/dru...Have you actually read this http://www.pdr.net/drugpages/productlabeling.aspx?mpcode=52402160 ? What some people will do indeed. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795018472494148149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-24553007127202461402012-09-11T14:02:06.338-04:002012-09-11T14:02:06.338-04:00Anon - your first comment was spam, it is in the s...Anon - your first comment was spam, it is in the spam folder, where it belongs. This site is not a "dump your vaccine conspiracy here" tip.<br /><br />Lilady has nailed it: why do you cite something from 1968? Oh, you just copied and pasted it from a page that catered to your agenda. That makes sense then, I guess.Catherinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580939201909356691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-78858176113230345562012-09-11T13:56:49.276-04:002012-09-11T13:56:49.276-04:00Thank you Todd.
Thank you Todd.<br /> Catherinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580939201909356691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-58044388585114144762012-09-11T13:21:49.299-04:002012-09-11T13:21:49.299-04:00Catherina,
Thanks so much for posting this and po...Catherina,<br /><br />Thanks so much for posting this and pointing out the bits of the study that <i>weren't</i> reported. No surprise, really, since the bit that was is so much more newsworthy than, "Hey, look! Unvaccinated kids were waaay more likely to get sick. Who knew?"Todd W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16192694127268195554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-79088124585380629702012-09-11T13:00:11.045-04:002012-09-11T13:00:11.045-04:00How about referring to the current Merck MMR Vacci...How about referring to the current Merck MMR Vaccine Prescribing Information...not the 1968 version that you refer to, Anonymous?<br /><br />http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/m/mmr_ii/mmr_ii_pi.pdf<br /><br />Those conditions that you say have been "reported"... are just that. The FDA regulations stipulate that all "Manufacturers Prescribing Information Sheets" for vaccines, other biologicals and all medicine, licensed for use in the USA, must contain any and all conditions that have been "reported"...even those that have NOT BEEN verified as associated with the use of the prescribed product.<br /><br />Show us where those "reported" conditions, have been investigated thoroughly and been reported (not by Vactruth), by researchers and been confirmed as associated with the administration of MMR vaccine. Try PubMed and look for published articles from the NEJM, JAMA and Pediatrics journals.<br /><br />Here another of your inane remarks...<br /><br />"The most interesting fact given in the 1968 circular and something that needs a great deal of thinking about today is in Section 8 – Relation to other immunising procedures where it offers the following advice:-<br /><br />“An interval of three to four weeks should normally be allowed to elapse between the administration of measles vaccine and any other vaccine, whichever is given first.”<br /><br />Then, this "other" opinion from you...<br /><br />"My question is, if this is so, then why the hell did they dream up putting the measles vaccine into a multi vaccine just a few years later? It is obvious to me that their very clear advice seems to have gone completely out the window, as nowadays, not only is the measles vaccine part of a multi vaccine but now they are saying it is safe to give children many vaccines in one day....."<br /><br />Try to muck your way through the CDC Pink Book, especially this chapter for proper "spacing" of vaccines, especially the spacing of live vaccines that are not given simultaneously, Anonymous:<br /><br />http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/pinkbook/genrec.html<br /><br />You really are gullible or a fool to think that Vactruth provides reliable information. And, you are beyond ignorant to not know about the minimal intervals to administer live vaccines, not given simultaneously. <br /><br /> liladynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-55905430381056382132012-09-11T12:50:08.160-04:002012-09-11T12:50:08.160-04:00Dear Brave Anonymous: As you have labeled anyone w...Dear Brave Anonymous: <i>As you have labeled anyone who questions vaccines as uninformed or misinformed, don't understand probability or statistics, have conspiratorial thinking, or get information from brain dead websites, it is no surprise. </i><br /><br />Actually, it is not much a label, but more of a description of everything you have posted, including the cut and paste diatribes. Though, at least now you have included quotation marks and attribution. <br /><br />Nothing you posted shows the MMR vaccine carries more risk than measles. Nor anything that shows it is cheaper to let every kid in this country get measles. That would be several million cases per year, with hundreds of thousand ending up in the hospital, thousands becoming permanently disabled and hundreds of deaths. And that is just going on the figures from the 1950s, when the USA population was half of what it is today.<br /><br />You still have not yet figured out that we much prefer links to the original peer reviewed literature, and <b>not</b> links to "therefusers" and "vactruth". Your <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22172504" rel="nofollow">sources are often desribed</a>: <i>as skewing science, shifting hypotheses, censoring dissent, and attacking critics; also discussed are frequently made claims such as not being "anti-vaccine" but "pro-safe vaccines", that vaccines are toxic or unnatural, and more. Recognizing disingenuous claims made by the anti-vaccination movement is essential in order to critically evaluate the information and misinformation encountered online.</i><br /><br /><br /><br />Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428361191787397415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-39991400918949069832012-09-11T11:25:57.605-04:002012-09-11T11:25:57.605-04:00“How safe is the MMR vaccine?
“The drug company...“How safe is the MMR vaccine?<br /><br /><br /> “The drug company that makes the MMR vaccine publishes an extensive list of warnings, contraindications, and adverse reactions associated with this triple shot. These may be found in the vaccine package insert available from any doctor giving MMR, and in the Physician’s Desk Reference (PDR) at the library.(8,9) The following afflictions affecting nearly every body system — blood, lymphatic, digestive, cardiovascular, immune, nervous, respiratory, and sensory — have been reported following receipt of the MMR shot: encephalitis, encephalopathy, neurological disorders, seizure disorders, convulsions, learning disabilities, subacute sclerosing panencephalitis (SSPE), demyelination of the nerve sheaths, Guillain-Barre’ syndrome (paralysis), muscle incoordination, deafness, panniculitis, vasculitis, optic neuritis (including partial or total blindness), retinitis, otitis media, bronchial spasms, fever, headache, joint pain, arthritis (acute and chronic), transverse myelitis, thrombocytopenia (blood clotting disorders and spontaneous bleeding), anaphylaxis (severe allergic reactions), lymphadenopathy, leukocytosis, pneumonitis, Stevens-Johnson syndrome, erythema multiforme, urticaria, pancreatitis, parotitis, inflammatory bowel disease, Crohn’s disease, ulcerative colitis, meningitis, diabetes, autism, immune system disorders, and death (Figure 49).(10,11)”<br /><br />The most interesting fact given in the 1968 circular and something that needs a great deal of thinking about today is in Section 8 – Relation to other immunising procedures where it offers the following advice:-<br /><br />“An interval of three to four weeks should normally be allowed to elapse between the administration of measles vaccine and any other vaccine, whichever is given first.”<br /><br />My question is, if this is so, then why the hell did they dream up putting the measles vaccine into a multi vaccine just a few years later? It is obvious to me that their very clear advice seems to have gone completely out the window, as nowadays, not only is the measles vaccine part of a multi vaccine but now they are saying it is safe to give children many vaccines in one day. In fact Paul Offit is actively giving the advice to parents that multiple vaccines are quite safe saying that even as many as 100,000 are perfectly safe. I wonder how he would feel offering to be the pin cushion he wants our children to be.<br /><br />“Paul Offit, M.D., chief of infectious diseases at the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia and the Henle Professor of Immunologic and Infectious Diseases at the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine, is the Chief US spokesman/liar for vaccination. The Voice of Sauron. On the board of Every Child By Two. Believes children can safely take 100,000 vaccines!”<br /><br />Mind you in saying this according to some he does share the patent on the Rotavirus vaccine Rotateq, that looks to have made him millions. Honestly what some people will do to get rich is beyond me.<br /><br />http://vactruth.com/2010/05/20/government-papers-on-measles-vaccines-exposed/<br /> <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com