tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post8785099171740098051..comments2024-02-25T14:33:37.251-05:00Comments on Just the Vax: Ho! How did I miss this?justthevaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07081499341191718417noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-58480285478958296312011-03-29T11:43:14.926-04:002011-03-29T11:43:14.926-04:00"Great catch Catherina. No wonder Dr. Bob is ..."Great catch Catherina. No wonder Dr. Bob is playing down the definition of outbreak; one wonders his role in the recent CA pertussis outbreak as well."<br /><br />We'll know this week, as the CDC presents preliminary findings from an investigation into California's whooping cough outbreak at a national vaccine conference in Washington, D.C. this week.AutismNewsBeathttp://autismnewsbeat.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-82730679696382594082011-02-24T02:16:36.015-05:002011-02-24T02:16:36.015-05:00Penglish - that is a good point, he may be preserv...Penglish - that is a good point, he may be preserving doctor-patient confidentiality.Catherinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580939201909356691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-18048323622645985292011-02-20T16:59:44.450-05:002011-02-20T16:59:44.450-05:00By a doctor to a patient, I meant, of course...By a doctor to a patient, I meant, of course...Peter M B Englishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032739079250190441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-90553730332591104572011-02-20T16:59:20.687-05:002011-02-20T16:59:20.687-05:00Here in the UK - and I assume also in USA - to dis...Here in the UK - and I assume also in USA - to disclose whether somebody is your patient or not is a breach of the duty of confidentiality owed to a patient by a doctor. <br /><br />I am a pro-vaccine advocate; there are lots of good reasons to criticise antivaxxers, but maintaining patient confidentiality by refusing to disclose whether somebody is their patient is not one of them.Peter M B Englishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17032739079250190441noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-45344775760537617612011-01-02T10:07:54.821-05:002011-01-02T10:07:54.821-05:00Great catch Catherina. No wonder Dr. Bob is playi...Great catch Catherina. No wonder Dr. Bob is playing down the definition of outbreak; one wonders his role in the recent CA pertussis outbreak as well. Now, if the index measles case was his patient, wouldn't it stand to reason that the infants infected in the physician's office was the Sears' practise?Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-51320637275910597702011-01-02T09:42:07.571-05:002011-01-02T09:42:07.571-05:00Liz - Waldorf Kindergartens and schools are the fo...Liz - Waldorf Kindergartens and schools are the focal points of outbreaks in Europe, especially German speaking countries. One Austrian school managed to rake up over 170 cases (amongst a school population of about 300) within 3 weeks, so more than 3x the annual measles cases in the entire US with one millionth of the population (probably not a fair comparison, since the pupil would have been much more closely packed, but still...). <br /><br />I wonder how many of the US Waldorf parents are fully aware of the totally potty (to cite David Colquhoun) Steiner philosophy behind the schools and the vaccine refusal. Real Steiner followers *want* their children to contract measles and other rashy diseases as a means to "shed miasms" and support the "Menschwerdung" (becoming a human). There are rumours of measles parties (so get togethers with the expressed purpose of infecting children), which, at least in Germany would be punishable with a fine up to 25K Euros. I wish someone would pull this through and I am genuinely surprised that there have been law suits (I assume) following the San Diego outbreak.<br /><br />If the parents were consequential, they would also sort out the black crayons from their children's art kits, would only let them drawn one picture per day, not learn to write their name before they are 7 and also not eat potatoes before then. Not getting their children their MMRs is about as potty as that...Catherinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580939201909356691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-68740396129662162822011-01-01T23:21:14.555-05:002011-01-01T23:21:14.555-05:00It was the San Diego 2008 measles outbreak that re...It was the San Diego 2008 measles outbreak that really woke me up about the social-justice aspect of high vaccine uptake for pediatric infectious disease.<br /><br />Many middle-class & lower families are getting by with parents having more than one job each, many without benefits such as paid sick leave etc.<br /><br />At least one infant day-care facility was closed for quarantine. In other words,I suspect that one or the other parent had to take unpaid time off from work to provide child care they had previously paid for, because the child care facility was quarantined. I suspect that the "average cost" to the families obscured the potential financial ruin to some families.<br /><br />As far as "anthroposophical doctors" I believe there are very few in the US. What we do have is Waldorf (Steiner) schools, mostly private (ie, fees are paid by parents, not the state). The Waldorf schools have extremely low vaccine uptake rates and have been the focal points for vaccine-preventable disease outbreaks. What is worrying is that there is a movement to fund Waldorf schools with state funds ("charter schools"). Historically, the Waldorf charter schools exhibit the same pattern of very low vaccine uptake.Liz Ditzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03455722013211350247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-89241276031982987912010-12-31T16:19:23.452-05:002010-12-31T16:19:23.452-05:00@Catherine
"it is totally cool to spread out...@Catherine<br /><br />"it is totally cool to spread out vaccines at up to $200 per vaccine visit, you know"<br /><br />Hey, if I was a physician in private practice and had a near or total lack of ethics or conscience, I'd do the same thing. Sadly, I have a conscience and so will never strike it rich at the expense of others.<br /><br />Happy New Year to you, as well!Todd W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16192694127268195554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-33403709174236768252010-12-31T15:39:18.116-05:002010-12-31T15:39:18.116-05:00And here I thought he was busy carving his niche a...And here I thought he was busy carving his niche as the parents'-fears-friendly doctor, ensuring plenty of clients for his private pediatrician's practise (it is totally cool to spread out vaccines at up to $200 per vaccine visit, you know - see http://www.askdrsears.com/schedulefee.asp) - or maybe I am just cynical - Happy New Year, Todd :)Catherinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580939201909356691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-42391377214925550272010-12-31T15:34:06.021-05:002010-12-31T15:34:06.021-05:00None of this matters to Dr. Bob, though. He's...None of this matters to Dr. Bob, though. He's too busy saving people (from the illusory evils of vaccines, of course).Todd W.https://www.blogger.com/profile/16192694127268195554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-10193665197492930022010-12-31T15:19:09.075-05:002010-12-31T15:19:09.075-05:00and from about 31:30 they interview Dr. Bob and me...and from about 31:30 they interview Dr. Bob and mention that he is the Switzerland index case's pediatrician.Catherinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580939201909356691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-23184652407332718782010-12-31T15:15:58.243-05:002010-12-31T15:15:58.243-05:00from minute 27 you get a description of a 10 month...from minute 27 you get a description of a 10 month old baby who caught the measles in his doctor's waiting room and got so sick, he dropped from 18 to 12 pounds in weight within 5 days and he was so dehydrated that it took an hour to get an IV in. The parents had to take a month off work to care for their severely sick baby. Does Bob count that as "passed without complications"?!Catherinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580939201909356691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-88285571779060548502010-12-31T15:02:27.693-05:002010-12-31T15:02:27.693-05:00Also, listen to this from minute 12:30
http://www...Also, listen to this from minute 12:30<br /><br />http://www.thisamericanlife.org/sites/all/play_music/play_full.php?play=370Catherinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580939201909356691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-9995902535914936342010-12-31T12:14:49.008-05:002010-12-31T12:14:49.008-05:00Thank you - I am really surprised that no one has ...Thank you - I am really surprised that no one has sued him yet. Health insurance companies in Germany did debate asking their money back from two non-vaccinating anthroposophical doctors after a big measles outbreak in 2000. Bob is *so* lucky that no child has had lasting damage (so far, we know that onset of SSPE can be a decade after the measles). My ethical problem is that anything I wish upon him would be triggered by a severely sick child and I cannot really wish for that.Catherinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14580939201909356691noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-38999997353135467512010-12-31T11:39:29.312-05:002010-12-31T11:39:29.312-05:00Good post. Will share this. "Dr." Bob ...Good post. Will share this. "Dr." Bob is a wold class denialist ass that is pushing a dangerous agenda. His ilk need to be slapped up side the head with reality, hard!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12565621013251370015noreply@blogger.com