tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post2623497795703444677..comments2024-03-25T03:28:44.234-04:00Comments on Just the Vax: The Toxin Gambit Part 1: Formaldehydejustthevaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07081499341191718417noreply@blogger.comBlogger257125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-39233364571579191182017-06-07T19:34:15.143-04:002017-06-07T19:34:15.143-04:00I don't know what can be reasonable about what...I don't know what can be reasonable about what anyone has posted citing the harms of formaldehyde in vaccines when the amounts are vanishingly small compared to formaldehyde naturally occurring in the body. Science mom has been incredibly patient in refuting such responses. Of course no one's patience is limitless - then the result is we get fools like you talking about SM's "nastiness" and "name-calling". Sheesh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-2034481966720205062017-04-05T02:53:00.003-04:002017-04-05T02:53:00.003-04:00Formaldehyde and methylene glycol are keto-enol ta...Formaldehyde and methylene glycol are keto-enol tautomers.<br /><br />Formaldehyde is also likely hydroxylated to formic acid in aqueous solution.<br /><br />Formaldehyde also reacts with the lysine groups of proteins forming a methylol group which further reacts with another amino group forming a methylene bridge.<br /><br />This is why it is used to fix tissues. It changes the tissue by forming crosslinks. This also creates distortion, and make make immunostaining unreliable since it has the potential to deform the tertiary geometry of epitopes.<br /><br />Formaldehyde exists on the label only, but I doubt that there is any formaldehyde in vaccines. Whatever hasn't reacted with amino groups exists as formic acid or the enol.<br /><br />Most aldehydes are too reactive in aqueous solution to remain aldehydes for long.<br /><br />The toxic elements of vaccines are Thimerosal and Aluminum Hydroxide (or phosphate).<br /><br />Food proteins in vaccines also have the potential to create allergic sensitization.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />pinksockpuppetnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-10685859734914259852017-03-17T08:32:40.803-04:002017-03-17T08:32:40.803-04:00This is really strange. When I read about formalde...This is really strange. When I read about formaldehyde on the Internet, it says that the water solution of formaldehyde is called formalin. So you claim that it can´t dissolve, but other sources says that it dissolves in water...Pernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-64550428600580393712016-07-15T18:03:08.098-04:002016-07-15T18:03:08.098-04:00thanks for asking the questionthanks for asking the questionreaderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07783515960738571163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-87854352329500672932016-02-04T12:19:26.135-05:002016-02-04T12:19:26.135-05:00yes. it could and would come back. its the concept...yes. it could and would come back. its the concept of herd immunityAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-11052559946464731652016-01-25T14:40:17.035-05:002016-01-25T14:40:17.035-05:00Hei :)
Jeg er allergisk mot formaldehyde. Reiser t...Hei :)<br />Jeg er allergisk mot formaldehyde. Reiser til Mexico i mars, skulle egentlig tatt noen vaksiner nå, men på helsestasjonen oppdaget vi at vaksinene inneholder formaldehyde og fikk dermed ikke tatt dem. Vet du noe om det kan være uheldig å ta vaksinene når man er allergisk?Sørlandsjentehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13996228910574669198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-82690553004607296252015-12-15T23:06:33.292-05:002015-12-15T23:06:33.292-05:00what you may be experiencing is pretty typical. th...what you may be experiencing is pretty typical. the Human body can react differently to chemicals depending on how its consumed. Formaldehyde in a fruit for example will potentially have a positive influence on primary and secondary systems where is where is if you were to extract that Formaldehyde from the fruit and consume it by itself or with other "extracted essentially dead ingredients" your body will potentially have a negative reaction to it as it is no longer in a positive format. lets get one thing straight the world you are taught to look at is purely a product of capitalistic industrial profiteering so it pays in most cases with your life to pay attention and to look deeper into things.<br /><br /> Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678829215695296468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-91665202331211860662015-12-15T23:00:59.459-05:002015-12-15T23:00:59.459-05:00I loved the article. I thought it was interesting....I loved the article. I thought it was interesting...with that said while I'm not terribly concerned with vaccines themselves the push for vaccination is purely for profit and nothing more. The science behind vaccination is far from sound and the product has a high failure rate. I know hearing this will upset you but unfortunately people just need to stop being so religious about the product and learn to move on. we got tricked...but at least allot of people got rich doing it right? ;) the world we live in.<br /> Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00678829215695296468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-24783407599136094222015-11-11T09:52:55.879-05:002015-11-11T09:52:55.879-05:00First, I would ask where you were tested? It appea...First, I would ask where you were tested? It appears that some skin irritation might be attributable to exposure to excess amounts of gaseous formaldehyde, but that no real test exists to determine if some is allergic or not...Lawrencenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-1241452875755070852015-11-11T09:05:37.673-05:002015-11-11T09:05:37.673-05:00I tested positive to Formaldehyde during my last a...I tested positive to Formaldehyde during my last allergy testing. If our bodies naturally make this chemical, how am I possibly allergic to it? I was advised to stay away from cosmetics and other such items, yet fruits like pear is ok to eat and gives me no reaction. Would you break this down for me please?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-1233361533056801972015-04-17T10:57:08.657-04:002015-04-17T10:57:08.657-04:00@Stenven
Steven, have you considered the possibili...@Stenven<br />Steven, have you considered the possibility that abscent the formaldehyde poisonning, you would have been a vulcan-like superbrain who does 5-digit integrals in his head, and the poisonning got you down a mere mensa-level genius??takenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11899313666233651264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-26362205919622849072015-02-21T14:53:26.172-05:002015-02-21T14:53:26.172-05:00Heck, the 4 in 1 MMRV has only been in use for a f...Heck, the 4 in 1 MMRV has only been in use for a few years even (I believe).Lawrencenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-82255873581850354272015-02-21T13:32:01.241-05:002015-02-21T13:32:01.241-05:00"The bottom line is that there is no safe vac..."The bottom line is that there is no safe vaccine."<br /><br />Now explain how measles, mumps, tetanus, diphtheria, polio, and pertussis are all "safe" diseases.<br /><br />"her first 5in1 vaccination"<br /><br />What "5in1" vaccine? It is not a standard one used on the <a href="http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/parents/downloads/parent-ver-sch-0-6yrs.pdf" rel="nofollow">standard American pediatric recommended schedule</a>.Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428361191787397415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-28255577921009788252015-02-21T10:15:15.325-05:002015-02-21T10:15:15.325-05:00You have obviously done your homework. Great reply...You have obviously done your homework. Great reply! Thank you! <br />The bottom line is that there is no safe vaccine. We fell into the "trust your doctor" trap and my grand-daughter nearly died from her first 5in1 vaccination. She is now developmentally delayed and can't walk. thankfully her intelligence was unharmed. We know she will recover but we all have missed out certain milestones. We love her so so very much and she is a wonderful little girl. It greatly angers me that all these beautiful children out there have their lives altered and all because Big Pharma wants to make a profit. Sick! Once you really get it through your head that they could care less about your child (a bitter pill to swallow, yes, I know) you are on the way to the truth. Big Pharma's primary goal is to sell their toxic junk: vaccines, pills, chemo, etc. etc. but true health and healing is NOT ON THEIR AGENDA BECAUSE THERE IS NO PROFIT IN IT, that's the simple truth. It's a business and consequently it needs to make money. If you help everybody to get healthy your sales will drop dramatically! Healthcare should never be a for-profit business. <br />Final Note: keep writing the truth, there are too many lies out there. And keep writing! But don't expect certain people to see the light. A man (or woman) convinced against his/her will is of the same opinion still!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-1776149529460331592015-02-18T21:57:29.334-05:002015-02-18T21:57:29.334-05:00"Pls study herd immunity..."
Tell us wh..."Pls study herd immunity..."<br /><br />Tell us what text book you would recommend.<br /><br />"True immunity comes from exposure, healthy diet and vitamins, exercise and a clean environment."<br /><br />Citation needed.<br /><br />"Injecting any toxic substance directly into the bloodstream is one of the dumbest (and toxic) things you can do."<br /><br />Please do tell us which what vaccines are given intravenously.<br /><br />" formaldehyde is dangerous."<br /><br />How do you plan to stop your cells from making it?<br />Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428361191787397415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-9958956445967706262015-02-18T21:44:46.655-05:002015-02-18T21:44:46.655-05:00Pls study herd immunity and you will learn that it...Pls study herd immunity and you will learn that it is a false concept and yet another lie to excuse this toxic overload called vaccine.<br />Then when you are done with that, you can study some more and then you will find out that children actually do have an immune system. One that gets stronger with each exposure. This disease-phobic society always assumes that we are all helpless without those precious vaccines. What a load of bull! True immunity comes from exposure, healthy diet and vitamins, exercise and a clean environment.<br />Injecting an infant with all these toxic substances creates a synergistic effect which amplifies toxins. Science geek - you should know that!<br />Injecting any toxic substance directly into the bloodstream is one of the dumbest (and toxic) things you can do. So, no matter how you twist it and justify it, formaldehyde is dangerous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-10062445849587762842014-11-18T14:29:46.812-05:002014-11-18T14:29:46.812-05:00By the way, have you figured out how to multiply 2...By the way, have you figured out how to multiply 20,000 by 500 yet? <br /><br />News flash: It still doesn't equal 1,000,000.<br /><br />What a joke you are!jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-31433290966677060172014-11-18T14:26:57.214-05:002014-11-18T14:26:57.214-05:00"Show the exact math of how you used 0.59/mil..."Show the exact math of how you used 0.59/million/year - 0.94/million/year to arrive at 1.4-4.2 deaths (THOUGH I'M PRETTY SURE YOU'RE JUST GOING TO IGNORE THIS REQUEST)."<br /><br />Man, can I call 'em or what? You're full of rotten s-h-i-t and you totally know it.jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-2905585741729134572014-11-18T12:32:11.108-05:002014-11-18T12:32:11.108-05:00If it means otherwise, EXPLAIN IT. Because unless ...<i>If it means otherwise, EXPLAIN IT. Because unless there is some missing factor (more made up/cherry picked numbers?), I have no idea how you arrive at 1.4-4.2. Show the exact math of how you used 0.59/million/year - 0.94/million/year to arrive at 1.4-4.2 deaths (though I'm pretty sure you're just going to ignore this request).</i><br /><br />I've given you sufficient information already. You are the one who doesn't understand his limitations. I'm not going to explain it to someone who has zero interest in learning; you're just here to demonstrate how smart you are but have in fact demonstrated how limited your knowledge of disease epi really is. This for example:<br /><br /><i>If you had any understanding of implied statistics, you'd realize that it would be virtually impossible for your numbers to be correct and for zero people to have died of measles in each of the last 8 years.</i><br /><br />Again, measles isn't a meat order at the deli counter. It takes several thousand cases to estimate case-fatalities. You have repeatedly demonstrated that you don't understand your own citations and basic epi principles. If you think we are such a joke then why bother here? You have your mind made up; it doesn't appear as though you have much confidence in your "risk analysis" given how desperately you are fighting. <br /><br /><i>The only data you have to stand on is an outbreak from the 1990's in which many children died because their parents refused medical intervention. It's disgusting that you would even use this unnecessary loss of life to try to prove a point. Have you no shame?</i><br /><br />5 children may or may not have died due to lack of medical attention. The fact remains that their deaths and infections would have most likely been completely avoided with prevention. Prevention that you have chosen to forego and roll the dice. The reason that the last major U.S. outbreak is used is that it is the best available data in terms of cases and fatalities due to the size of the outbreak and the retrospective analyses of death certificates. It is very telling that in spite of improved healthcare that measles is as deadly as it was pre-vaccine.<br /><br />Why don't you run along now. I'm very busy and am not interested in engaging someone who isn't interested in anything outside of his confirmation bias.<br />Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-15809579954983966102014-11-18T12:09:55.744-05:002014-11-18T12:09:55.744-05:00In the context of this conversation, if you random...In the context of this conversation, if you randomly throw out this tidbit: 0.59/million/year - 0.94/million/year ... I'm going to assume this means you are implying that .59/1,000,000 non-immune people will die from measles in a year. If it means otherwise, EXPLAIN IT. Because unless there is some missing factor (more made up/cherry picked numbers?), I have no idea how you arrive at 1.4-4.2. Show the exact math of how you used 0.59/million/year - 0.94/million/year to arrive at 1.4-4.2 deaths (though I'm pretty sure you're just going to ignore this request).<br /><br />Speaking of 1.4-4.2 deaths, and considering we've thrown up nothing but goose eggs (in case you didn't know, "goose egg" means zero) for measles deaths since 2006, your own numbers unapologetically undermine absolutely everything you are saying. If you had any understanding of implied statistics, you'd realize that it would be virtually impossible for your numbers to be correct and for zero people to have died of measles in each of the last 8 years.<br /><br />So either one of two things is the case. 1) People are dying of measles, but TPTB are hiding this fact (which is absolutely unlikely); or 2) Your information is bogus, just like you. If Vegas would take such a bet, I'd wager everything I'm worth on option #2.<br /><br />Listen, you're a joke. The only data you have to stand on is an outbreak from the 1990's in which many children died because their parents refused medical intervention. It's disgusting that you would even use this unnecessary loss of life to try to prove a point. Have you no shame?jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-55307848561564220412014-11-18T10:46:58.367-05:002014-11-18T10:46:58.367-05:00You use the numbers where you have sufficient data...You use the numbers where you have sufficient data, which is why the 1990 epidemic values are used over the recent numbers when after vaccination levels went up.<br /><br />"Based on the CDC's own adverse reaction risk, there were also at least 8,000 (likely a hell of a lot more) trips to the hospital due to serious adverse events from the vaccine."<br /><br />Citation needed. The NVICP statistics page shows less than a thousand claims for the MMR vaccine in the last twenty six years, and over half were dismissed.<br /><br />"Cost of MMR vaccine in 2013: $856,000,000<br />Cost of measles in 2013: $2,400,000"<br /><br />So would those be the same numbers if MMR vaccination was stopped? Also, for someone who is decrying old numbers, why did you use 1990 hospitalization costs? And sixty year old hospital stats, when the USA has grown at least 50% in population? I can tell you from real experience what you quoted is close to daily hospital costs. Also you are off by a factor of ten on the hospitalizations that would occur if we went to four million measles cases per year.<br /><br />I'll stick to the numbers from <a href="http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/189/Supplement_1/S131.full.pdf" rel="nofollow">An economic analysis of the current universal 2-dose measles-mumps-rubella vaccination program in the United States</a><br />, thank you very much. The cost savings are in the billions.<br /><br />It is obvious that you wanting to ignore the 1990 numbers, cherry pick from recent years with high vaccination levels, and just make stuff up shows you know nothing about statistics and honesty.<br /><br />Are you being paid by big hospital supply? Do you market respiratory support equipment?Chrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14428361191787397415noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-27195846562786680912014-11-18T07:19:16.495-05:002014-11-18T07:19:16.495-05:00Your claim is "0.59/million/year - 0.94/milli...<i>Your claim is "0.59/million/year - 0.94/million/year"<br /><br />12,500,000*.00000059=7.735<br />12,500,000*.00000094=11.75<br /><br />I'm guessing this math is too difficult for you, so let me simplify it in terms that I hope even you can understand. </i><br /><br />You are not using that number correctly. Seriously JV, you aren't anything remotely resembling an epi. You have really embarrassed yourself. If you can't work things out properly yourself, you should just leave it to those who can even if they are girls.Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-83987757860628267662014-11-18T00:40:40.985-05:002014-11-18T00:40:40.985-05:00Here's a little math lesson for you "witt...Here's a little math lesson for you "wittle girl" ...<br /><br />If there are 313 million people in America, and 4% of the population is non-immune, that 12.5 million people. Follow that?<br /><br />Your claim is "0.59/million/year - 0.94/million/year"<br /><br />12,500,000*.00000059=7.735<br />12,500,000*.00000094=11.75<br /><br />I'm guessing this math is too difficult for you, so let me simplify it in terms that I hope even you can understand. <br /><br />What if you use 1.00/million/year instead of 0.94/million/year (it's close enough, right?)? Can you figure out what this number is with 12.5 million people? That's right, 12.5.<br /><br />Now go ahead and completely ignore actual math and divert to something else instead of just admitting that your math skills are completely unbecoming of anyone daring to call themselves "Science Mom." You are such a fraud. The both of you.jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-3568730071228079392014-11-18T00:27:03.691-05:002014-11-18T00:27:03.691-05:00"... the number comes from the 1990 epidemic ..."... the number comes from the 1990 epidemic where there were between 130 to 200 deaths depending how the records were read ..."<br /><br />I see ... so it makes sense to use numbers from 25 years ago where there is up to a 40% discrepancy in the numbers, and disregard all clinical data from the last 5 years. That makes sense, for fucktards. Or, you know, on the off chance that I decide to transport my family back in time by 25 years for the awesome medical care they had back then. So much better than today.<br /><br />As for your "how it cheaper to treat diseases like measles" b.s. Let's look at reality for a minute ...<br /><br />There were 8 million doses of MMR administered last year. The shot averages $70 or so, so that's $560,000,000. I know math is hard for you, but use a calculator if you're stuck carrying the one.<br /><br />Based on the CDC's own adverse reaction risk, there were also at least 8,000 (likely a hell of a lot more) trips to the hospital due to serious adverse events from the vaccine. I'd guess the average cost of treating these adverse events is probably $2,500, so that's another $20,000,000.<br /><br />There was also another $276 million in outlays through the NVICP program.<br /><br />So on the whole, the measles vaccine costs society about $856 million or so in 2013.<br /><br />Well what about the cost of treating measles?<br /><br />Last year there were 180 cases of measles. About 25 of these individuals were hospitalized. Let's say their treatment was $10,000. So that's $250,000 for treatment. There were also 11 outbreaks, so let's say it cost the CDC $200,000 to contain each out break. So that's another $2.2 million. This brings the grand total of measles cost to $2.4 million for the year.<br /><br />So the totals:<br /><br />Cost of MMR vaccine in 2013: $856,000,000<br />Cost of measles in 2013: $2,400,000<br /><br />So you were asking me something about which is more costly ... Do you actually think about any of this shit before you ask such stupid questions?<br /><br />And before you whine about pre-vaccine blah, blah b.s. ... there were about 50,000 hospitalization a year before the vaccine. At $10,000 a pop, that's still only $500 million (use your calculator), about $350 million less than what this crap is costing us every year today. Not to mention those rates were during a baby boom, with 60 year old technology. The hospitalization rates would undoubtedly be much, much lower today.<br /><br />You really need to get a clue. Or at least just collect your money and stop trying to argue with me. You're just making yourself look more and more like a foolish twit.jvhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04479143060530633741noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-15676477886770562262014-11-18T00:18:00.572-05:002014-11-18T00:18:00.572-05:00If your numbers were even remotely correct, there ...<i>If your numbers were even remotely correct, there would have been 7-12 deaths in 2008 from measles. You know how many there were? Zero!!! ZERO!!!</i><br /><br />Even using your own moronic "logic" and stupified maths, that's 1.4-4.2 deaths, not 7-12. I guess that massive IQ of yours isn't so useful eh?Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.com