tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post641777271878858798..comments2024-03-25T03:28:44.234-04:00Comments on Just the Vax: The MMR-Autism Claim and Bad Science: Part Ijustthevaxhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07081499341191718417noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-91197785572395235132009-07-19T21:13:33.795-04:002009-07-19T21:13:33.795-04:00This is such a useful post as I find many vaccine ...This is such a useful post as I find many vaccine critics are still claiming that Wakefield's original findings demonstrate a compelling correlation whether or not causation can be concluded. They haven't kept up with the latest research or OAP bombshells and are unaware that the findings were fraudulent to begin with. Chalk up another embarrassment for Dr. Bob and thanks for another detailed and patient post that should be enlightening to anyone with an interest in the issue.Delendanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-50398697394868341282009-07-18T14:25:59.866-04:002009-07-18T14:25:59.866-04:00Anon,
Why use the Unigenetics if it were "def...Anon,<br /><i>Why use the Unigenetics if it were "defunct"? (Hornig et. al, 2008)</i><br /><br />It wasn't but Dr. O'Leary (the owner of the former Unigenetics lab) did participate in this study via his academic/clinical lab in Coombs Women's Hospital. It is important to note that he had to adhere to a strict set of protocols and these results were confirmed by 2 other labs that participated in this study and were blinded to the samples and each other's results.<br /><br /><i>As to Thomspon et. al. - I think you've unknowingly explained why there might be a difference between natural vs. attentuated infection. Perhaps the host is incapable of sufficiently clearing the pathogen...</i><br /><br />Perhaps I am misreading your comment but his hypothesis was based upon the observation by a Swedish study that postulated that wild-type measles infection was a risk factor for Crohn's disease. There is nothing to indicate that the attenuation of the measles virus affects viral clearance by the host, on the contrary, the virus is more efficiently cleared by the host without measles pathogenesis. And, since they used poor detection methods and appeared to be trying to acquire their results to fit their hypothesis, rather than the more rigourous method of disproving the null, the Thompson et al. paper does nothing to validate the MMR-autism claim.Science Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-30638427755258428212009-07-18T10:47:20.101-04:002009-07-18T10:47:20.101-04:00I think this is a great post. Thanks for taking t...I think this is a great post. Thanks for taking the time.<br /><br />Why use the Unigenetics if it were "defunct"? (Hornig et. al, 2008)<br /><br />As to Thomspon et. al. - I think you've unknowingly explained why there might be a difference between natural vs. attentuated infection. Perhaps the host is incapable of sufficiently clearing the pathogen...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-30314974923192243142009-07-13T16:52:27.910-04:002009-07-13T16:52:27.910-04:00Thanks skepticat; it seems we have a few things in...Thanks skepticat; it seems we have a few things in common, one of them being an esteemed opinion of 'chiroquacktors' (love that term). <br /><br />CheersScience Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08832263571481452559noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3406721589945384372.post-1053677069912949042009-07-13T07:35:48.883-04:002009-07-13T07:35:48.883-04:00Wow - great post, thanks! I'll be sure to link...Wow - great post, thanks! I'll be sure to link to it next time I write something about Wakefield.skepticathttp://skepticat.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.com